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		<title>The 8th console generation.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s hard to believe that we&#8217;re nearing the end of the life cycle for the 7th generation of video game consoles. With speculation growing about what the 8th console generation will bring, Maxator threw his thoughts into the mix. This generation was extended by the horrific economy and the late addition of motion sensing hardware [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><span class="drop_cap">I</span>t&#8217;s hard to believe that we&#8217;re nearing the end of the life cycle for the 7th generation of video game <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/consoles/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with consoles">consoles</a>. With speculation growing about what the 8th console generation will bring, <a href="http://theworldofmaxator.blogspot.com/2010/12/next-next-gen.html" title="Next next gen.">Maxator threw his thoughts</a> into the mix.</p>

<blockquote>This generation was extended by the horrific economy and the late addition of motion sensing <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/hardware/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with hardware">hardware</a> by <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/microsoft/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with microsoft">Microsoft</a>/<a href="http://mendax.org/tag/sony/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with sony">Sony</a> and improvement of the Wiimotes with the Motion Plus dongle. That said, the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/wii/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with wii">Wii</a>, <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a>, and <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/xbox/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with xbox">Xbox</a> 360 have all exceeded the previous standard of four or so years between console generations&#8230;</blockquote>

<p>It does <i>seem</i> like the current console generation has lasted awhile, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games" title="History of video games.">per Wikipedia</a>, that&#8217;s not entirely true. It turns out that gauging generation length isn&#8217;t straightforward.</p>

<p>One way to determine the duration of a generation is to look at the length of sales for a given technology (e.g. 8-bit). The problem here is that sales length doesn&#8217;t account for technology availability causing generational overlap. For example, Playstation sales continued even after the Playstation 2 was launched, and new titles still continued to appear on the Playstation. Disregarding availability of newer technology means that the duration of older generations appear longer. (This would mean that the 3rd console generation lasted a solid 12 years.)</p>

<p>A second method for determining generation length is to consider a generation over once newer technology is available for sale. In other words, rather than factoring in the Playstation&#8217;s full sale&#8217;s life, we can consider it dead as soon as newer technology (e.g. the Playstation 2) became available. Under this method, the 4th generation has lasted the longest, with a record nine years.</p>

<p>Still, this means the current console generation has already lasted six years, and puts it in a position to last another year or two depending on how quickly the <em>Big Three</em> can bring a new console to market.</p>

<h3><a href="http://mendax.org/tag/nintendo/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with nintendo">Nintendo</a>, the old stand-by.</h3>

<p>Compared to its competitors, Nintendo made waves with the Wii by introducing comparatively weak hardware, but at a cheaper price point and with an innovative control system. Maxator believes the &#8220;Wii HD&#8221; will be revealed at E3 in June.</p>

<blockquote>I expect more of an iterative approach, then an all out new console, similar to Nintendo&#8217;s market strategy with the DS. I see a vastly improved processor with the same architecture allowing backwards compatibility with older Wii games. HDMI output for HD resolution is a no brainer and I don&#8217;t see a change in the controller&#8230;</blockquote>

<p>Backwards compatibility is a must for the Wii, but a small, iterative approach won&#8217;t do. Considering that most Wii gamers are casual and/or younger, buyers will be more likely to ask what the huge differences are to justify a hardware swap-out. Merely adding a small speed bump and 1080p resolution isn&#8217;t enough, and we wouldn&#8217;t gamble against Nintendo finally jumping back into the competitive fray and offering a true graphics-monster. Hardware isn&#8217;t taking huge leaps like it did several years ago, which means incorporating cutting-edge graphics into a next-gen console isn&#8217;t as costly as it once was.</p>

<p>Of course, Wiimotes will likely stick around, and <em>they</em> may see small, iterative improvements. Nintendo will either continue playing up their ground-breaking motion controllers and keep them primary to the experience (unlike add-ons like Move and Kinect), else reveal an even more innovative control scheme (which is unlikely).</p>

<blockquote>Lastly, for licensing and cost reasons alone, DVD is much more likely than BluRay&#8230; Look for a $250-300 price tag.</blockquote>

<p>We&#8217;re rather inclined to suggest that Nintendo might forego optical media entirely and just push on with digital distribution. The Wii has been a successful platform for this already, and the technology is no longer proof-of-concept, with XBox Arcade having solidified the concept in gamer&#8217;s minds. If a new Nintendo console <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> compete graphically with other 8th-gen consoles, then digital distribution is even more likely, since it&#8217;s graphics that primarily increase file size. Either way, Nintendo will likely try to come in at the same price-point the Wii did, managing to beat the competition by at least $50 at the register.</p>

<h3>Sony, the other Japanese Empire.</h3>

<p>The biggest problem Sony had is fragmented, inconsistent hardware. Early PS3s sported on-chip backwards compatibility and a slew of USB ports, while later versions had software-based backwards compatibility that was later phased out. Unlike other consoles, the PS3 has <em>lost</em> more features than it&#8217;s gained, and that phenomenon has put many would-be owners off.</p>

<blockquote>Given their entirely unimaginative and conservative hardware philosophy, I see a faster processor, same &#8220;gnome hands only&#8221; blocky controller, and of course included BluRay and hard drives. Boring but powerful and probably at a significantly lower price point than the PS3 started at, likely $350-400.</blockquote>

<p>Sony has indeed played it safe, focusing its energies on what&#8217;s worked in the past, and the next-gen Sony console likely won&#8217;t be any different. Cutting edge hardware, a similar controller scheme, and a high price tag are to be expected, being traditional Sony fare. Even Nintendo and Sega played more <em>loosey-goosey</em> with hardware reveals in the past, whereas Sony is sticking to an old formula that may not play out well in the long-run. We&#8217;ve argued in the past that Sony&#8217;s largest benefactor is its reputation, but with poor moves like removing features over time, that reputation isn&#8217;t as strong as it used to be. If Sony doesn&#8217;t do more than <em>react</em> to its competitors (e.g. Move), then its 8th generation console will be like the Nintendo 64.</p>

<h3>Microsoft, the Evil One.</h3>

<p>Microsoft has been reactive to its competition as well, but they&#8217;ve taken better notes than Sony. While everyone expected a Wiimote copy-cat accessory, Microsoft responded with Kinect, and they&#8217;ve refined their UI and online offerings well. (The 360 UI still sucks, but it&#8217;s gotten better.) The big question will be how well Kinect does, and whether a more powerful Kinect accessory will be standard-fare in Microsoft&#8217;s next-gen entry.</p>

<blockquote>I still see the &#8220;Xbox Next&#8221; being drive-free with an optional BluRay drive, ala their approach to the failed HD DVD.</blockquote>

<p>It&#8217;s doubtful that Microsoft would suddenly jump on the BluRay bandwagon; they&#8217;ve actually signed onto a multi-company agreement <em>not</em> to adopt BluRay, along with such faux allies as <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/apple/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with apple">Apple</a>. Few companies are hedging their bets on BluRay anymore, and it&#8217;s arguably the last optical media format anyway. Just as the Wii has proven to have a good online marketplace, XBox Arcade has proven itself quite successful, offering many indy and older titles. Chances are, the next-gen Microsoft console will keep Arcade alive, and offer bigger, more spectacular games.</p>

<p>Of course, by offering digital downloads for blockbuster titles, Microsoft&#8217;s next console will absolutely need a larger hard drive, and for this they may take Apple&#8217;s cue and consider going with more reliable SSDs. The only obstacle here is cost, but with a Microsoft 8th generation console release in 2012, that may not be a huge issue, especially if they can skirt optical media and take a larger cut of indy sales.</p>

<h3>Apple, the unlikely player.</h3>

<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be a huge surprise that <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ios/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with iOS">iOS</a> has become a huge platform for mobile <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/gaming/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with gaming">gaming</a>, and with <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ios/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with iOS">iOS</a> now entering the living room thanks to the new Apple TV, it&#8217;s not a huge stretch to assume that Apple may use this as a springboard for home video gaming. We agree with Maxator, however, that full-on support of this isn&#8217;t going to happen anytime soon.</p>

<blockquote>Don&#8217;t expect Apple to join the console wars anytime soon. Jobs has never made an effort to support gaming and with the entry costs of the console market being so high, I can&#8217;t see him hurting his stock price on a longterm risky investment. Plus, they are already happily making 20% on every repackaged Atari game on the iPad/Phone.</blockquote>

<p>While Jobs <em>has</em> spoken to Apple gaming in the past, each Apple gaming headline has stood alone, with no real followup from Apple. With one failed console already on their books, Apple&#8217;s only now getting real gaming press because of how successful iOS has become. Apple&#8217;s <em>30%</em> cut on all iOS apps is definitely helping the company out, and the large number of iOS gamers is notable by Apple using games in first-party advertising. But, most huge iOS gaming titles are casual games, and while deeper games on iOS do exist, they&#8217;re only now starting to really take off (e.g. id&#8217;s Rage).</p>

<p>Any Apple entry into the console wars will be <em>natural</em>, built on developer desire rather than Apple outright declaring a gaming console. Whereas most console companies have positioned their devices as gaming devices first and media devices second, Apple will work the other way around if they do eventually want to offer big-screen gaming. This means that any Apple console effort will remain dependent on the success of the Apple TV, which could easily evolve to support a solid gaming platform built on existing hardware. (Imagine multi-touch, mostly buttonless controllers that look like a handheld Magic Trackpad, complete with gyroscope.)</p>

<p>Dreams aside, Apple is already doing what many thought impossible: challenging Nintendo on the mobile gaming front. Apple doesn&#8217;t need to <em>position</em> their devices as gaming devices, because developers have already embraced them as such, even though they&#8217;re not really considered gaming devices as far as their primary functionality goes. Still, expect better games on iOS devices as the 8th generation console wars rage, but don&#8217;t expect to Apple to take this market on head-to-head just yet.</p>

<h3><a href="http://mendax.org/tag/onlive/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with onlive">OnLive</a>, the underdog hero.</h3>

<p>While OnLive may not be able to compete in the motion-control arena, it&#8217;s a notable platform that deserves mention, even if it wasn&#8217;t on Maxator&#8217;s list. OnLive is a platform that bridges the gap between PC games and console games, and with it&#8217;s &#8220;console&#8221; client being offered for a mere $100, it already competes with the Big Three on graphical terms. They key to OnLive will be leveraging the success of big-name MMOs, which console gamers might want access to, but may not have the PC desktop power to play well. Since OnLive should be able to scale to play these titles as well as its current library (which is more console-centric), OnLive immediately establishes a niche market that&#8217;s still unrealized. The big question here is how fast OnLive can offer blockbuster titles compared to the Big Three, and how fast they can grow their infrastructure. Potentially, however, OnLive can challenge any of the Big Three as far as traditional console gaming goes, and could make hardware upgrades for PC gaming a thing of the past, too.</p>

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<p><strong>Similar Posts:</strong></p>

<ul class="similar-posts"><li><a href="http://mendax.org/2008/05/04/nintendo-must-be-high/" rel="bookmark" title="May 4, 2008">Nintendo must be high.</a> &#8211; The rumour band-wagon is hastily moving forward that a gyroscopic controller from Microsoft will ful&#8230;</li><br />

<li><a href="http://mendax.org/2010/06/29/microsoft-kinect-a-cute-novelty/" rel="bookmark" title="June 29, 2010">Microsoft Kinect: a cute novelty.</a> &#8211; We haven&#8217;t weighed in on Microsoft&#8217;s Kinect (formerly &#8220;Project Natal&#8221;) because we haven&#8217;t seen anyth&#8230;</li><br />

<li><a href="http://mendax.org/2011/04/19/the-apple-tv-as-a-console/" rel="bookmark" title="April 19, 2011">The Apple TV as a console.</a> &#8211; Over the past couple days, we&#8217;ve seen considerable speculation about Apple&#8217;s involvement in televisi&#8230;</li><br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Reviewing the news coming out of E3 this week has shown itself to be a dreary affair. One, because we had a chance to attend the expo before other priorities revealed themselves (and thus didn&#8217;t), and two, because as the hoarse voice in our head mocks, &#8220;Perhaps you&#8217;re just not a gamer anymore.&#8221; And maybe [...]]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">R</span>eviewing the news coming out of E3 this week has shown itself to be a dreary affair. One, because we had a chance to attend the expo before other priorities revealed themselves (and thus didn&#8217;t), and two, because as the hoarse voice in our head mocks, &#8220;Perhaps you&#8217;re just not a gamer anymore.&#8221; And maybe we&#8217;re not &#8211; we&#8217;re certainly not console aficionados anymore, having shed the weight of the console wars many years ago. It was by chance that we again took up the console call with <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/microsoft/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with microsoft">Microsoft</a>&#8217;s enormous black boxen, and later again with the innovative <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/wii/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with wii">Wii</a>. But let&#8217;s be clear: our <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/gaming/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with gaming">gaming</a> time is a mere sliver compared to when we vapidly devoured every PC title worth playing, and the prospect of playing competitively as we did in Counterstrike years before is simply not realistic anymore. Indeed, we may even argue that our three-round battle with World of Warcraft was the end of our earnest <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/gaming/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with gaming">gaming</a> days, but perhaps this is an overstatement: time is simply one variable that affects our level of excitement for games these days, and in short, most new titles simply do little for us. One, because we&#8217;re now more interested in titles that don&#8217;t require massive time investments per session, and two, because the vast majority of titles remaining either aren&#8217;t particularly good or simply don&#8217;t titillate us.</p>

<p>Sure, there&#8217;s the occasional game of note that grabs our attention, like Fallout 3 or its DLC. There&#8217;s even a couple titles from E3 that peak our interest, be it Borderlands or Grindhouse. But most titles simply bore us, and we happen to attribute much of that boredom to the simple fact that we dislike, nay, <i>loathe</i> the typical console control scheme. Look, we&#8217;re PC gamers at heart (it&#8217;s why we took years to come back to <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/consoles/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with consoles">consoles</a>), and quite simply, there&#8217;s nothing better than a keyboard and mouse to control most games. <i>Especially</i> <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/fps/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with fps">FPS</a> titles. In fact, much as we loved Fallout 3, we purchased it for the 360, and the reliance on crappy console controls was our biggest complaint.</p>

<p>This <i>hatred</i> of typical console controls is why we had such high hopes for the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/nintendo/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with nintendo">Nintendo</a> <strike>Revolution</strike> Wii. Yet sadly, as innovative as it was, the Wii proved to be little more than a novelty. Indeed, most games we&#8217;ve played on the Wii are either novelty titles (like Wii Sports) which wouldn&#8217;t occupy our long-term interest anyway, else titles that really didn&#8217;t benefit much from the Wii remotes in the first place. But rather than poo-poo all over the Wii yet again, let&#8217;s admit that Nintendo&#8217;s effort was good, even if the result (prior to Motion Plus, maybe) was marginal.</p>

<p>For those who <i>love</i> casual games, particularly the mini-games Nintendo titles are known for, the Wii certainly stands out from the 360 and <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a>. And that&#8217;s why Nintendo has managed to survive this round of the console wars, and why it was inevitable that Microsoft and <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/sony/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with sony">Sony</a> would want a piece of the motion-control pie. So set out both companies did, and both revealed their Wii-killing accessories at E3. The <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a> did so with little fanfare, while Microsoft just made Natal a gamer household name.</p>

<p>For those asleep while E3 was going on, Natal isn&#8217;t a controller, it&#8217;s the <i>lack</i> of a controller. Natal&#8217;s <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/hardware/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with hardware">hardware</a> component is a camera that captures physical movements, such that 360 gamers don&#8217;t need to hold a controller to swing a sword, or punch, or jump, or do whatever. Natal, capable of facial recognition, will not only act as an interface to the 360, but to a whole slew of new games that will track user movement as an input mechanism. In theory (and from what E3 videos show us), Natal is just as sophisticated as the Wii in terms of motion control, and will likely compete well against Motion Plus equipped Wiis too. The question Microsoft and Sony have been asking is this: &#8220;If we can duplicate Wii functionality on a more powerful system, won&#8217;t we lure gamers away from the Wii?&#8221; And that&#8217;s a good question to ask, if it weren&#8217;t for the lead Nintendo already has in the motion control arena. While Sony is still vested in the original question, however, Microsoft made steps not just to duplicate Wii functionality, but to move well beyond it, making their original question moot.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s like this: every peripheral that intends to use Wii functionality will likely be built to interface with the Wii remote. If not, then the Wii remote still needs to be used in conjunction with the peripheral. For example, why does EA Sports Active use a resistance band instead of a dumbbell? Never mind the acute advantages of a resistance band for casual athletes over a heavier exercise device: a dumbbell would simply never work alongside the Wii remote and nunchuk. <i>Only</i> a resistance band will work since EA Sports Active is ultimately tied to the Wii&#8217;s controllers to function.</p>

<p>The same game on the 360 (which is indeed coming, BTW), with Natal as an input device, is far more flexible. (It will likely be cheaper, too, since the game won&#8217;t require a nunchuk pouch to be part of the package.) Indeed, EA Sports Active, with Natal, requires the user to hold no device at all, so they could just as easily use a resistance band as they could a dumbbell. In other words, the flexibility a workout game can have with Natal is hugely significant, as a Natal-equipped 360 with EA Sports Active could easily be used with a resistance band, dumbbells, a kettlebells, et al.</p>

<p>About the only disadvantage to Natal versus the Wii is what the camera <i>can&#8217;t</i> see, as would be the case if the Wii remote is used <i>behind</i> the player. And that&#8217;s a relatively unlikely scenario. There&#8217;s also the Wii&#8217;s added advantage of having buttons present on the Wii remote while the swinging happens, but Natal can still be used in conjunction with a controller, remote, or other peripheral, so it&#8217;s not like Natal&#8217;s making gamers give up button presses entirely. If anything, it solves more problems than it creates, and ultimately trumps both Nintendo&#8217;s and Sony&#8217;s motion control offerings. The trick for Microsoft will be in pricing Natal competitively, and that means <i>cheaply</i>, in order to keep a Natal-equipped 360 close in price to the Wii, and there&#8217;s obviously some difficulty in that. If Microsoft can work this formula out, however, there&#8217;s no reason they can&#8217;t succeed in luring the Wii faithful away from Nintendo&#8217;s current-gen icon.</p>

<p>For gamers like us, Natal presents an interesting new landscape. We can likely expect not only casual games that Wii gamers know and love, but since we&#8217;re talking the 360, more mature titles that use Natal as well. And that presents some nice possibilities, as we can easily visualize Natal control schemes for fighting games, FPS, etc, as long as there&#8217;s some basic method to control avatar movement. For melee-oriented games, Natal is a no-brainer in this regard, as a nunchuk-like accessory would be enough to compliment the Wii. Even FPS could work incredibly well with a nunchuk with trigger component. The next question is, without that component (and there&#8217;s no indication that one will exist at Natal launch), will Natal games be limited to <i>too</i> casual games? Right now, Natal offers a rather incredible control scheme with the potential to add motion control to games that the Wii simply can&#8217;t handle, effectively becoming what the Wii <i>should</i> have been at launch. But Microsoft could just as easily fail on this front, by either focusing too strongly on party games, or not pushing the possibilities for Natal-enabled mature titles to third-party developers. In other words, Microsoft needs to push the idea that Natal is <i>core</i> to the 360 experience, else it will become just another accessory soon to be forgotten by the general 360 user (think Power Pad, the PS2 camera, etc).</p>

<p>That hoarse voice in our head, it&#8217;s chiding us. And if Natal proves to be little more than another hardware console novelty, then maybe it&#8217;s right. But we&#8217;re pretty certain that Natal can recapture our love for console gaming by making motion control both fun <i>and</i> efficient as an input medium. If not, we&#8217;re taking our gaming hat and heading back to PC territory. Even if it&#8217;s only for a few minutes a week.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[A recent Gizmodo post caught our eye, in which Adam Frucci attempts to draw comparisons between the current generation consoles by price. Asserts Frucci, &#8220;the prices of all three consoles are incredibly close, and you can obviously fiddle with these configurations to change them.&#8221; And fiddle with Fucci&#8217;s ridiculous numbers we can, and should, because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><span class="drop_cap">A</span> recent Gizmodo post caught our eye, in which <a href="http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/mc4coZfbhj0/the-true-cost-of-console-ownership-in-2009" title="The true cost of console ownership.">Adam Frucci attempts</a> to draw comparisons between the current generation <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/consoles/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with consoles">consoles</a> by price. Asserts Frucci, &#8220;the prices of all three <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/consoles/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with consoles">consoles</a> are incredibly close, and you can obviously fiddle with these configurations to change them.&#8221; And fiddle with Fucci&#8217;s ridiculous numbers we can, and should, because Frucci&#8217;s evaluation of the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/wii/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with wii">Wii</a> is sadly mismanaged, because not only does he include an extra $80 for four Motion Plus add-ons that do <i>nothing</i> for the console right now because <i>they&#8217;re not even available yet</i>, but he, in turn, leaves the $90 cost of the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/xbox/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with xbox">XBox</a> 360&#8242;s wi-fi adapter out of his baseline console pricing scheme. Is there <i>any</i> consistency to his madness?</p>

<p>Frucci may as well inflate the price of the Wii by another $80 because he left out the Wii Balance Board. Oh, and the price of component cables (even though they&#8217;re only <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bragaincell-Definition-Premium-Component-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000RQBI3K/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&#038;s=videogames&#038;qid=1239903256&#038;sr=1-7" title="Bragaincell high definition gold-plated six-foot premium HD component cable for Nintendo Wii.">50 cents at Amazon</a>). Come on, Frucci, pull your head out of your ass and realize that the cost of a console doesn&#8217;t include accessories that are currently unavailable, and, in fact, don&#8217;t have any games out which support them. That&#8217;s not to say that the Motion Plus <i>won&#8217;t</i> take off, but if they do, they may very well simply be incorporated into the Wii remote at a future date anyway. Why emphasize them in a console price comparison as though they are <i>required</i> for Wii <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/gaming/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with gaming">gaming</a> today? Should we also add to the XBox 360&#8242;s price because of the rumoured Wii-like remote that may ship for the 360 later this year?</p>

<p>If Frucci&#8217;s not a Wii-hater (and a 360 fan-boy to boot), we don&#8217;t know why he&#8217;d opt for the more expensive Wii controller charging station, instead of the $33 one <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Wii-4X-Quad-Charge-Station-Nintendo/dp/B001FS31HA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=videogames&#038;qid=1239903420&#038;sr=1-2" title="Wii 4X quad charge station.">also available at Amazon</a>. And why does Frucci incorporate the price of a quad charging station for the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a> and Wii, but only a dual charging station for the 360? By our estimates, Frucci&#8217;s Wii price should sit squarely at $457, while the prices for the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a> and 360 are $557 and $604, respectively (wi-fi included). We even threw the <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/ps3/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with ps3">PS3</a> and 360 a bone here by removing the price of two games, since Wii titles are not only $10 cheaper per title by Frucci&#8217;s estimates, but the Wii <i>comes with a game</i>, which, via Frucci&#8217;s numbers, means that the Wii is another $50 cheaper.</p>

<p>In other words, games aside, a Wii is approximately $100 cheaper than a PS3 and about $150 cheaper than a 360 assuming one <i>needs</i> four controllers and a charging station. And that doesn&#8217;t even consider the annual costs of XBox Live!, which accrues at least $40/year just for online multiplayer. So even with Frucci&#8217;s silly notion of including Motion Plus in this comparison, that&#8217;s only two years of multiplayer gaming on the 360, which we gather, most 360 owners have already paid for (aww, shucks).</p>

<p>Sadly, Frucci and Gizmodo haven&#8217;t done anything but add flames to the latest console war. It&#8217;s one thing to dispute the value of money spent on each console, but that&#8217;s subjective depending on who the user is. From a pure price stand-point, however, the Wii clearly wins, and even though we&#8217;re fond of the 360 as a heavyweight gaming machine, the truth is that it&#8217;s the most expensive system available, even compared to <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/sony/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with sony">Sony</a>&#8217;s monstrosity. That&#8217;s true even if we <i>don&#8217;t</i> include the 360&#8242;s wireless adapter, because Live! is disproportionately expensive considering that Sony and <a href="http://mendax.org/tag/nintendo/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with nintendo">Nintendo</a> offer their online services for free.</p>

<p>Why all the hullabaloo? Because in a highly subjective argument regarding the console wars, there&#8217;s still a capacity for objectivity, and price is one of those. One can expound upon the merits of any console to argue for its purchase, but that doesn&#8217;t resolve the ugly reality of real costs. A solo gamer looking to play online can pick up a Wii and get gaming for just over $250. <i>Fact.</i> That same gamer can&#8217;t get down and dirty with a PS3 or 360 without dropping about $100 more. <i>Fact.</i> Buying three additional controllers doesn&#8217;t make the Wii any less desirable from a pure price standpoint over its competition.</p>

<p>Let&#8217;s not argue value by obfuscating costs to try making a point, and stick with the truth, shall we? We&#8217;re looking at you, Frucci.</p>

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